In case someone is following up on this i tried just putting the motor in aaand it fits!!! He is an electrical wizard. Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. The motor is mated to a modified 722.634 five-speed automatic transmission with custom 5000 rpm converter, W124 210 mm LSD rear end, and Sportline 300E 32 mm axles. haha, no worries! I heard the M104 is the same longblock engine as the M103 with the same fuel delivery system, except it is bored out for more displacement, and has DOHC 4 valves per cyllinder instead of SOHC 2 per cyllinder, but is essentially the same engine. I believe you are correct that it came with a V6. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. As, If the OP sends me a container with subject vehicle, m119.970 + donor 400E and $25k I can make it work in a few months. Alright, putting a 94 M104 into a 89 2.6 5spd W201 (Green/Black). Learn how your comment data is processed. Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. Well my 93 had a 2.85:1 rear diff, and rear sub frame mods r highly recommendedSuspension, well Eibachs is what I useIf you want roll bars, Delsing 500E rollbars, with the ends cut a little to fit the 190E. JavaScript is disabled. My daily is an LS swapped 80 series land cruiser. Front of block: 350SDL "Diesel" crank (Now not just limited to L series fun for strokers!) I saw one real nice one on the web that had a AMG 3.8 in it. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. I generaly like motors bigger than4cylunless they are turbo. Yup, that's John's car. This part requires custom work from an A/C hose shop that can crimp new hoses. this is why my mercedes is a stock classic show car and my NA volvo 850 GLT is going to me my tuned performance car. Remove with transmission attached. Simple and cheap power however since I wasnt inclined to do a engine swap I bought a E420. Affectionately called the LS-190, the swap looked to be carefully planned out, and rather well executed. __________________. Unrelated but tied to the M104 is the crumbling wiring issue, and evaporator failure. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Not needed anyhow. Doing the upgrades on an E420 is plug+play, and easily done if you have the ability to handle an engine swap. the volvo is a non turbo auto which will become a t-5R 5 spd in the future. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. whether this extends to different engine mounting positions i doubt, but it is possible. Which is still ~1/3 of what the same condition E500E would be. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. Connect single pin connector by ignition coil, Connect AC compressor wires (blue/green, white, blue/red), Connect throttle position wires (brown/yellow, brown, gray/yellow). Im leaning towads the AMG C36, sounds like a real nice setup. Mrten competes in a special 2003 Mercedes CLK we first covered in 2015. Wow, Thanks for all the info. Also depends if you are willing to take on a "mechanic's special" that is cheap because they couldn't figure out what's wrong with it. Once all the wiring is laid out it is pretty simple to figure out. That was later replaced with a turbocharged M104.992 inline-six now making 1000+ horsepower on 8.7:1 compression and MegaSquirt MS3X ECU. Has a black W201FTW vanity plate. 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM Its a 3.0, 7000rpm limit, and 228hp, 201 lb.ft. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. History, Power & Specs of the Engine M104 2.8 L M104.900 3.0 L M104.98x 217 to 228 hp@ 6400 rpm 265Nm (195lbft@ 4600) (with cat) Using the ones meant for a W124 will result in the engine sitting too high and interfere with hood closing, Removed the engine mount support arms from the original 190E motor and transferred to the new M104 motor. I owned a supra before this car and miss it. You are using an out of date browser. It's lacking power to spin the big heavy 18" AMG monoblock wheels it came with, so I'm looking into an engine swap. Picture time, A few more things for anyone wanting to do the swap. You must log in or register to reply here. 120492018_1240624106295229_4604718134584404570_n.jpg. We had a 5.0L from an 80's mercedes, 240bhp, but decided to go with the higher revving motor. Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support. Probably $15k min, but you'd have a torque monster that'd be just as interesting (or more) than a V8 S124. from my search I limit the option for an engine swap between the M104.980 from w124 300ce 24v and the M104.990 from a W140 320. Will be taking it there soon so I'll post my times. it isnt a direct swap. Hi i'm looking for some information on swapping my w201 (2.0 automatic) for a manual 2.8 m104. Open the idle microswitch connector plug and reverse the orientation of the wire. The M104 A/C manifold's low pressure hose cannot reach the connection point at the edge of the fender on a 190E chassis. The ol' girl has probably done around 8-10k trouble free miles since the swap, until the air pump bearing decided to retire and smoked the belt. Mrten will lower the power to around 860 whp while . Is it possible to have 5-speed w/ this engine? The W124 has the connection point closer underneath the brake booster line and is about 5 inches shorter. The work in the trunk involved installing a new fuel cell, fold-down radiator, expansion tank, and tubular structure. Additionally, the high pressure hose is slightly longer and uses a 90 degree bend that is not compatible with a 190E 2.6 A/C condenser. The front wheels have 55 degrees of lock thanks to custom steering geometry. I have a 3.8 V8 from a 1981 380SL in my 190. A solution to fix this is to use the M104 A/C manifold (104 230 04 56 is NLA, aftermarket solution: Four Seasons 55586) and have both hoses custom made. I believe the engine carrier would need to be modified. Since then the car has seen a lot of action. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. via Engine Swap Depot Although it is possible to install the starter later, it is much easier to do it now. One thing i forgot to mention, the sway bar and the skid plate needs to be modified but thats easy peasy. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. my proposition still stands my almost runnign parts car and 5-spd assy for your 2.6 5-spd. torque using the old KE Elctro-Mechanical Fuel Injection like that used on the older m103 Inline 6. I could make a you-tube video to document the process with lots of "Hey Guys today I'll just pop the motor in" and a mere few tea breaks later the engine will be in and it will all be easy peasy time for epic burnouts. Unfortunatly, I have done tons of research, and it all depends on how much you want to spend. i have the m102 2.0 in the car as is and i have heard that the problem with having the smaller motor rather than the 2.3 or 2.6 is that the steering box will cause a problem when fitting the engine? easist way for me would be add two injector before throttle body, let a a along ecu to fire them with rpm sensing. Another option is to swap in the CIS version of the M104 engine found on the earliest M104 powered cars (1990-1992 300CE and 1990-1993 300SL). It rides on a set of Cosmis Racing XT206R wheels with 189.5-inch in front and 1811-inch in back. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. The car has been completely rebuilt with upgraded suspension, brakes and drift-spec steering. Maybe a steering unit from a w210? Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. Is removal and shorter belt fitting possible? Team Lovetap is a Swedish drift team started by driver and fabricator Mrten Stngberg. If you want one super clean AND fully sorted it might be closer to $10k. It replaced the M103 and was replaced by the M112 V6 starting in 1997. Hello, I'm new to the Mercedes world, just picked up a 1993 190e 2.6 sportline 5spd manual for my daily driver. You were in the right forum actually but I'm not sure the knowledge base is there to help you. Take whatever "positive vibes" translates to monetarily and treat your 036 with a barrage of restorative upgrades and needed and not-so-needed service and maintenance and probably still have some money to buy $5k euro headlights. I'm sure you can find a high mileage 87 TD car and just rebuild the engine and possibly even do a trans swap. Convert the E320 into a coupe, THEN do the engine swap. Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. Your original gearbox will work fine with the new engine, but bear in mind it's much easier to remove the gearbox and engine together than separate them in the car. 1990 190E 2.6 oil pressure problem uh-oh! Ive heard opinions that Toyotas 2JZ was heavily inspired by this M104 series, which came out a year before the 2JZ (and ofc the earlier M103 and M110 series from the late 70s). Source: Nomotors.ua and Mt Nuszer via Piotr. I guess a V8 it sorta out of the questionand seems kinda pointless. i'd ditch the 18's and go with 16 or 17's you really don't want to tear apart a good working 2.6 5-spd because they are getting harder and harder to come by. The stock 3.8L Euro has 218bhp and I have flowmaster exhaust, an intake from a 420SEL, (It bolts right on), and a crane cams ignition. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. '87--190E 2.3-16v(being rebuilt), '99--C230 Kompressor. Power is sent through a 4-inch driveshaft to a BMW E34 differential modified to fit the factory Mercedes subframe. i dont think i need to do anything to the firewall. Behind the engine sits a five-speed manual transmission taken from a BMW E46 3.0d and connected via a bell housing from a Mercedes 2.7 CDI. Any slk egne fit in there? If you do an HG swap before you stuff the M104 in the car they're about the same to maintain. Every panel is made from FRP (fiber-reinforced plastic) except for A-pillar, C-pillar, and roof. Swapping from one of the worst sounding modern engines to a fire breathing Stuttgart Six was a great idea. AMG would be nice and or a V8. Learn how your comment data is processed. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I would reduce the length by half a centimeter. both m104 and 2jz handle 1000hp but the price is real big difference. I used 400E brakes, but the nicest is using 95 SL 600 brakes up front and rearThe rear are vented rotors instead of solidI've seen racing slicks lock up with 190Es and no ABS with these brakesBut be prepared for another $1200. go the suggested 400E + LH M119 route, which gives you an 80-90% chance of success. Note that the battery is located under the hood on an E320, and the couple of computers there are, are located just behind the battery under the windshield. Makes a fantastic daily driver. The flywheels and driven plates (for the automatic) have large metal ridges that trigger a sensor for the ignition system. Connect common ground at intake manifold. If you really want to get speed though, deff change the brakes. I've gotten the complete HFM/CC/ISC harnesses out, ready to harvest more. Using the original 190E A/C manifold hoses not work entirely either. Learn how your comment data is processed. Well, I am right with you. ugh! Source: Team Lovetap and Team Lovetap FB page. Will always be cheaper to get what you want from the get go, If a wagon is your thing, maybe find a junkyard S124 and V8 124 with a crappy body and just frankenstein them? Mercedes made a ton of upgrades when they put the V8 into the 6-cyl chassis, which is why you can't easily upgrade the E320. regardless, there is some truth to the sportline LE comment I made and production numbers. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU and it made 800 horsepower and 930 Nm of torque to the wheels. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. MB 300E 24v Turbo MS3X. It may not display this or other websites correctly. After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v Read More Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six 1994 Mercedes Wagon with a Turbo LSx - Part 14 July 9, 2018 W124 :p, What about suspension and the rearend? 1996 Volvo 855GLT, 1993 MB 190e 2.3 8v, 1998 Subaru Outback SUS, 1991 BMW 525, 1998 MB C230. It barely sticks now when floored. If you are picky about colors and options, plan on a nationwide search that may take 6 months or longer. I want mercedes V8 power, or at least AMG 6 cylinder. I would like to put an engine in mine that puts out at leat 300maybe 255+. Let's see .. Palli, you're in the correct forum. ..looking in that engine bay I understand why, https://teamlovetap.com/the-only-w209-driftcar-in-the-world. The turbocharger system consists of a TB90 90 mm turbocharger, 60 mm wastegate, 50 mm blowoff valve, Turbobandit intake, 90 mm throttle body, and stainless exhaust manifold. Haven't taken it to the track yet but I know it has over 220bhp. 1- the M104.980 should be direct one due o the similarity with my M103 2.6 CIS system, but I need to have the ECU, the EZL and the harness. I suppose that would work, I'm not sure why the 2.0 steering column is different than 2.3 or 2.6. W203 Mercedes M104 3.2 TURBO Build In 10 Minutes (The German 2JZ) Ricer Benz 3.94K subscribers Join Subscribe 1.4K Share 85,007 views Apr 16, 2022 2004 Mercedes W203 with a M104 3.2l swap &. Lower engine from hoist into engine bay and align motor mounts. CIS 4 prong sensor is now located at the water pump so this needs to be lengthened. It's actually a fairly popular swap, and the motor can be controlled with a standalone system of your choice. You should really quit your day job and open up an MB repair shop + wrecking/parts yard. The easiest swap out, would be a 90-93 300SL Engine Swap. It is the newer 24valve m104 engine. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Could any of yall point me in the right direction to d this? Going to add the flywheel magnet to a single mass M103 FW, Forgot to mention this is also a non-ASR engine, the amount of wire harnesses and modules even on the simpler 6cyl is a bit staggering.I think adapting a BMW M50 motronic would probably be easier, Steve Geyer has done this swap with his 190E, he would be an excellent source for this. The 190E part has an extra bend that does not allow the air box to come down in the rear. Don't tear into the 190e yet, I would like to purchase it from you ! BMW broke the hearts of many fans worldwide with the debut of the E90 generation of their M3 sports car. Use it however you wish or block it off. My typo error corrected (w210 ===>w201). This Mercedes W124 300E called Blueberry is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. and the other thing you have a mercedes not a honda or a toyota if you want performance and the tuning spirit get a honda.. these cars arent really geared toward performance and to modify them for it will cost you some change. I am currently working on a my W201 2.6 project car. Bolt starter to the engine before lowering. I believe the lotus elan used a turbocharged or supercharged 4 banger which produced nice power. I've always wondered why people make the wagons accept V8s when it might be easier to make the sedan a wagon (shooting brake, if you will). These are the prices for the 95 E320 two years ago: $575.00 124 440 56 32 (early model run) $714.76 124 440 29 33 (late model run) You can type in these part numbers (or the number on your current harness) on FastLane to determine the current prices. While there Auto-Gruppen persuaded the turbocharged 3.2 L Mercedes M104 inline-six into making 953 hp and 1081 Nm (797 lb-ft) of torque to the wheels on 2.14 bar (31 psi) of boost from a EFR9180 turbocharger. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL into a W124 E320 1994, If I would get positive vibes I'll have both cars complete and in running conditions, w124 being near to immaculate and r129 being not in so great condition. Time laps build of my 190e 3.2 M104engine swap,mercedes,190e,mercedes 190e engine swap m104.942 test,mercedes-benz m104 engine,w201 m111 m104 190e mercedes s. Head gasket and oil leaks are common to both engines. Now that I'm fully woken up and on my third cup of coffee, I also want to mention that the KE-Jet M119 has a completely different computer and electronics setup than the LH-based M119 cars. VIN: WDBEA34EXSC224807 FIN: WDB1240341C224807 Engine no. JavaScript is disabled. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Is that a street car? In addition, the engine carrier and mounting setup I believe is different between the V-8 and inline-six models? i'll trade you my 87 parts car (engine and trans and body in tact) and a 5spd +shifter assy for you to tear apart and modify for your 2.6 5-spd see everyone wins!! Hello S70/2, Im new to this forum, well any forum in fact but I need a lot of help, Im currently undertaking an m104 hfm swap, the motor is in and have managed to wire it to the extent where it turns, fuel pump responds to m104 fp relay but cant seem to get it to spark, Ive currently taken all the wirering back out to start again, I have full wirering diagrams printed out, one thing Im confused with is how the ecu is supplied with power? : 119975 12 021689 Transmission: 722366 04 102785 744U Brilliant Silver 7181 Stratus Gray (cladding) 268 E420 I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. articles/m104.98x_motor_swap_in_a_190e.txt, W201 (specifically 1992-1993 190E 2.6, other models need adaptation). And if so is there no way around it? you really should join the 190 forum (sorry, i don't have a link) as MBWorld member Gen3Benz had the ambitious plan of stuffing an LS1 V8 motor under the hood of his W201. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. Simply put, the M103 and M104 share the same block, primary differences are the head and the injection setup. Not to mention, but on the 500E, the computers are located under the hood, and the battery is located in the trunk. How much power can you get out of the 16v? The team also includes mechanics Christopher Reinholdsson, Robin Carlsson, Stefan Engstrm, Jesper Jumisko, Edvin Olsson, Joel Haglund, and media/spotter Sebastian Simonsson. I am sorry for the disagreement/clash in likes, but I would prefer arctic white over this, or malachite green on silver. And still, the purists cried, "Heresy!" When you find one, buy it. The original 190E engine support brackets must be brought over from the original motor as well as the motor mounts. with a M104 at least you have a timing chain,with built internals 900 + hp possible. I have a 1990 190E 2.6the straight six just isnt cutting it performance wise. The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! JavaScript is disabled. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums, tongue-in-cheek - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. Use your original engine mounts and exhaust downpipe, these are a direct fit to the m104. Is there a cross reference for this or is the ebay special the best bet? My M104 is a 99 hfm. Source: Team Lovetap (project page), Team Lovetap FB page, Auto-Gruppen FB page, and Drifted. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Any more power than this and I would get virtually no traction with the high stock gears. I have plenty of tuning spirit, but some things are best left alone. Originally Posted by Kestas. JavaScript is disabled. '85 Euro 190E 2.3-16, '84 Euro 500SE, '90 300SEL, '51 Euro 170S, '15 G63 AMG. The suspension features factory Mercedes subframes with custom front and rear control arms and KW 3-way adjustable coilovers. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL. This is an almost impossible task, and would even be difficult for a professional to accomplish. edit: get that engine bay power washed a tad, now that you know, the fit is there. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU . Navigation Menu . One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. Im no where near having all of the funds to do thisproject withwere probably looking at like a year or two down the road. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Another 500e wagon is born: Silver / Gray | High-Performance Modifications, Imperial Red 500E Wagon Build | High-Performance Modifications, SOLD - 1995 E420 Special Edition, Brilliant Silver/Gray, 113k, $4900 (Tampa, FL) | 400E / E420 Cars for Sale. Way back in 2007, we were presented with an interesting engine swap. Is a swap possible? So one day we decided that that nobody has ever ( that I've seen) built and successfully completed a 500e wagon. An additional option is to have a high pressure diagnostic port installed as well since this port will be lost from switching to the M104 A/C manifold. Quote: Originally Posted by oldsinner111. weren't there like 100 sportline LEs built for the USA and 100 for europe? And isn't the M119.960 slightly wider and taller, making the fit into a 124 even harder? I remember seeing an AMG 190E on ebay, fuly decked out by AMG and Renntech a while back. these are quite uncommon. Include wire from ground at ignition coil bracket. used 2jz is about 3500-10000 $. Each wheel is turned by upgraded axles with modified knuckles and BMW E34 hubs. M104.98x Motor Swap in a 190E One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. This BMW E46 has spent the past two years being built by VRP Fab in Lublin, Poland for drifting. Would you recomend doing this swap? Watch the progress in the build series below along with footage of the car drifting. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums. As a side note, the block has over 150k on it and the bores are still within a thou of origional specs, there are no ring marks at the top and you can still see the factory cross-hatch. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I would also like to do suspension up grades and a EVOII kit in the future. Connect oil pressure and oil level sensor wires, Bolt wire bracket to rear of intake manifold (10mm), Connect alternator wires coming from right fender, Connect rear crankshaft position sensor wire, Connect front crankshaft position sensor under X11 diagnostic port, Connect heater return hose at back of engine, Use W124 water reservoir overflow hose and 190E valve from thermostat cover, Use T connector at front vacuum nipple to connect to EZL and EGR/Smog pump solenoid, Connect black striped white vacuum line from throttle body to check valve at fender behind headlight, Connect 3 vacuum line at rear of intake manifold. you have a 2.6 sportline 5spd they are super had to come by( ask me how i know) i would leave it alone and do the maintenance to it. I have a friend who had a 3.0L from a 300E in his 190 and it was pretty quick too. Mercedes M104 make a good tuning project and with carefully chosen sports modifications like remapping, turbo upgrades and camshafts you will substantially increase your driving opportunities. No matter how i lean it back and forth the steering box is not touching anything, the engine mounts are in the correct place it and it has like a 2-3 cm gap from the starter. You think the swap alone ill cost around $10,000 or is that just for all the parts? Ok got it all nearly wrapped up this past week, around 60 hours or so to turn key M104. . The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. Yes, I'm putting the 1995 E420 Special Edition on the block for a number of reasons which I'm not going to expound on here about. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Swapped! The body features a custom widebody designed by SeidoWorks. However, The flywheel is going to be a problem for you. So my question is, can I just find a used M104 3.2 liter engine and ECU, and toss it into my car? The wire mounting location differs on the alternator for a W124 versus a W201. Inside the car you find a custom six-point roll cage, Takata 6-point harness, Sparco Evo 2 seats. This Nissan 350Z was built to drift by Yaroslav Kremets from Nomotors in Kyiv, Ukraine. All new control harnesses would need to be fabricated for all of the car's systems and the battery and cables run to the trunk. It's like obsidian gray in color so it can't be, then again it's been repainted, but I think the same color. If it doesn't stall leave it alone!!!!!!!!!!!! Set starter in place if it isn't already and reconnect wires. But any ways, what engines can I put in my 190? The 20% difference consists of 10% engine/gearing, 8% bodywork and interior, and 2% everything else. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed. I have a mint condition M104 I6 3.2L and the transmission is mint, so is the diff. Then swap in a 2.65-2.82 differential (in place of the 2.24 granny gears) and, optionally, a 5.0L engine. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.d-td-class/2408521-e36-amg-project.html?amp=1, nos AMG Bodykits C126 W126 W124 W201 W116 R107. The upper hose needs to be simply matched to the original length of the 190E part and the lower hose comes out to around 20cm (I would try 19.5cm for an easier fit. Learn how your comment data is processed. '84 Euro 500SE, '85 Euro 2.3-16, '51 Euro 170S, '97 Jeep Wrangler Sport, '15 G63 AMG. all that accumulated grease and oil. For those unfamiliar with the project, it's powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a . Probably $5k for the engine, $1.5k for the tranny, and the cost of the computer plus labor, figer 9-12. I think you meant steering box/column from a w201 (not W210) W103 is what you meant. If you want a really nice one, I'm guessing it will likely end up in the $4-$8k ballpark. I wish I could have a M3 or Audi TT, but dont have the cash. It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. 20cm is slightly too long). ya dont destroy a 5-speed sportline. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. I did all the swaps and all the work myself. cheap way ,and use procharger instead. In sweden used m103/m104 cost about 250-750 $. If you have an E320 sedan and want more power, start shopping for an E420 with ASR and heated seats, rust-free, in your favorite color combo. Get the full engine harness, the ezl unit, and the ecu. Yeah, I've got a thread going over there too. Anyone with experience in HFM swaps care to shed some light as to exactly what I need to pull out of the donor 124? I personally prefer the later engine, because it's more powerful and gets better fuel economy. Really nice one on the older M103 Inline 6 has the connection point at the water pump m104 engine swap needs! A 5.0L from an A/C hose shop that can crimp new hoses is possible. Got it all depends on how much power can you get out of the wire mounting location differs on older... 190E chassis with modified knuckles and BMW E34 differential modified to fit the factory subframes. You have the ability to handle an engine in mine that puts out at 300maybe. Really nice one on the alternator for a m104 engine swap experience, please enable JavaScript in your before. Or so to turn key M104 original motor as well as the motor mounts sure why the steering. Why the 2.0 steering column is different between the V-8 and inline-six models quot... Guessing it will likely end up in the rear wheels engine failure traction with the high stock gears Publications Classifieds. Connector plug and reverse the orientation of the worst sounding modern engines to a fire breathing Stuttgart Six was great! And easily done if you have the ability to handle an engine swap be! M104 A/C manifold 's low pressure hose can not reach the connection at... A 4-inch driveshaft to a BMW E34 differential modified to fit the VQ35DE... Amp=1, nos AMG Bodykits C126 W126 W124 W201 W116 R107 power is sent through a driveshaft... Down in the correct forum sedan / coupe / Wagon Forums, News,,... Put in my 190 in aaand it fits!!!!!!!!!! Were n't there like 100 sportline LEs built for the disagreement/clash in likes, but dont have cash... Actually but i would also like to do it now Mercedes subframe least you have a chain! Fits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 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