What I can tell you is that choosing the right caliber in relation to recoil can make or break your performance as a shooterespecially if youre new to the game. Taking the original .300 Ruger Compact Magnum and necking down to accept the 6.5CM projectiles, Hornady could fire the same projectiles as the 6.5CM but with 250 fps added MV. Still less than the classic .308 Winchester. Our blog and video on the Flattest Shooting Cartridge Ever! If you want the absolute best performing Long Range caliber, it will certainly come at a cost. One big drawback to the Valkyrie is the same as the .223. Not many production rifles exist in a budget option. Its not uncommon in the sniper community to see MVs differ by up to 150 fps (feet per second) across two different M110s both shooting M118LR ammunition of the same lot. When comparing TR values, think of it this way. Why not mention the 7mm Remington Mag? Ammo can be found at most sporting goods stores. So when I speak of overall practicality, I would steer people towards a round that is attainable in an easily bought rifle. So dont assume that youll be shooting the worlds flattest rifle cartridge and bullet until youve verified your MV and bullet B.C. Granted I do live in New England, and we dont have that many long shot opportunities here, but you would think someone would want to have there firearms chambered in such a flat shooting cartridge. His favorite caliber at the time for LR competition shooting was the 6.5CM. It gives you that extra boost in MV to cut the wind more effectively. At 1000 yards the .30-06 round has dropped around 30 feet (350 inches). Recoil Condition: You are definitely going to feel less recoil than a .308. You will get more bang for your buck choosing the .308 Winchester as your next Long Range caliber. A 10 mph right angle wind at 500 yards can divert even a fast, high B.C. This program is designed to provide a way for websites to earn advertising fees by linking to Amazon. What bullet weight did you select for the .270 Winchester? Enforcermj, Im not sure if your comment is sarcastic or not. The most versatile suppressor in the Banish line, the Banish 30 works with all of your rifle calibers from .17 to .30 caliber magnums. For the time being, I will stay with the 3006 Im familiar with but will take your input into consideration and will have to try out a 6.5 Creedmoor at your recommendation. How can I get all the data in a spread sheet form like you showed in your video? Barrel Life: Again, as most wildcat rounds are concerned, barrel life will not be great. You can compare these numbers with your favorite cartridge using Backfires own table of flat shooting cartridges and you will see that the numbers indicated are in the absolute upper tiers. It offers exceptional accuracy and a decent range for shooters who do not have Long Range facilities available. Pretty impressive for a low B.C., 55-grain bullet. Those of you who reload can stretch the Valkyrie by playing with different powders, bullet seating depths, and projectile types. Initial Thoughts: The first time I fired the .300NM I was blown away. By way of comparison, the .270 Winchester (based on the .30-06 Springfield) offers a case capacity of 67 grains. Outstanding job!! Wind also affects bullets differently, and a cartridges ability to overcome these three forces makes it better or worse for shooting flat and far. .270 Weatherby Trajectory shooterscalculator.com free .280 Remington 175 grains, 2725 fps, .672 BC. The average price per round will be close to $2.00. Ammo Availability: The biggest issue for calibers this new and this niche, is Hornadys ability to keep up with the demand. 243 and 25-06 had to be left out because it didnt have enough at 600 for even deer. It gives you an MPBR of 336 yards. projectile that you might crown that one King, especially since that 100-grain sounds a bit more reasonable for deer-sized game. Still not in the magnum range so no worries. From PRS shooters to Long Range hunters, the Creedmoor has made a name for itself. I shot this out of the new Barrett ASR at 1,600m. They create these great cartridges and then neuter them with barrels too short to reach their full potential. I have been considering something with more power and am willing to learn to reload. (Well that largely depends on the shooter). Yep, no more, I put a brake on it. 500m: 2,115 ft-lbs 1,000m: 937 ft-lbs. These are all under my extreme heading, because theyre all brutal on cost and recoil. = 3002 inches = 250 foot = 76m above target at 1000 yds now thats a challenge ! Also because of how popular and available it is, the 6.5 comes in around $0.75 to $1.25 per round, making it very affordable to shoot compared to other high-performing LR calibers. 1,500m: 426 ft-lbs. Its just human nature to celebrate and admire the biggest, bestest, and flattest. All in all, the .308 is certainly manageable by shooters of most ages. So what can we learn from these numbers? This also means barrel life will vary greatly. As soon as a projectile leaves the muzzle, the earths gravity instantly begins to affect the trajectory of the round. A line can be drawn in the sand between the .30 cal class projectiles and the .338 and larger. The final two cartridges above are mislabeled. Another issue is recoil. Corporal McMahon is a former 0317 Scout Sniper with 1st BN 2nd Marines. 500m: 1,212 ft-lbs. Pronghorn hunters have driven the search for flatter shooting cartridges for a long time. Thanks, 26 Nosler 127 gr LRX 3602 Ft./Sec. Ive posted your article on my wildlife and hunting group on FB. 6.5CM cases will fit an AR-10 magazine. Please keep doing these informative articles your delivery and information are on point. To take the 6.5CM and add MV to the equation, pure joy happens. Initial Thoughts: This cartridge is an interesting case of innovation to solve a fairly difficult problem. I was so familiar with how those rounds acted in high crosswinds and how they performed through Transonic. Thats what happened with Norma. Is flatest of all youve listed. It has less case volume, traditionally firing a heavier bulletBUT still retains energy over range better and maintains a longer Transonic Range than its bigger brother. So lets roll with this! A 25 yard miscalculation at that distance will vary your hit by half a foot and outside our 6 imaginary circle of vitals. Does it go the farthest? 270. 500m: 1,212 ft-lbs. Average price per round$1.00. So keep this in mind when choosing an LR round for you. Death in the Long Grass: A Big Game Hunter's Adventures in the African Bush .by Peter H. Capstick, Dino Paravano, Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders (Volume 1) Paperback, The Complete Guide to Hunting, Butchering, and Cooking Wild Game: Volume 1: Big Game, Horn of the Hunter: The Story of an African Safari Kindle Edition, Use Enough Gun: On Hunting Big Game Hardcover, Pheasant, Quail, Cottontail: Upland Birds and Small Game from Field to Feast Hardcover March 1, 2018, The Easy Venison Cookbook: 60 Simple Recipes for Deer, Elk, and Moose Kindle Edition. The big 7mm will recoil more, but you will do better in windy conditions. bullet. Barrel length will change MV. It just murders your shoulder, ears, and pocketbook at the same time . The following table averages multiple loads for each cartridge and shows an average amount of drop at 500 yards and 1,000 yards for each cartridge. I personally shoot a .338 Edge, and I am not at all upset it did not make the list. Before its inception, the thought of pushing a 75-grain projectile past 1000 yards was uncommon. I do believe the market will catch up to this round. Ammo Availability: Factory ammunition can be found nearly anywhere for about 30 cents per round but as stated before, prices range greatly. No. No one denies how incredibly devastating this caliber can be, but for the average tactical and competition guy, this caliber is overkill. I noticed in your video that your chart also listed energy and recoil. You get excellent Long Range performance, with recoil slightly less than the .308 Winchester. Although I dont see this being an entry-level caliber, it could very well lead to a goal for new shooters. Factory ammunition can be found nearly anywhere for about 30 cents per round but as stated before, prices range greatly. Mag. 1,500m: 362 ft-lbs. Heres a chart from my Popular Hunting Cartridges Compared article. One thing that makes the .308 Winchester one of the best Long Range cartridges ever, is that in a pinch, you can find ammo for it ANYWHERE. He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. Remaining Energy: Muzzle: 1316 ft-lbs 500m: 470 ft-lbs 1000m: 165 ft-lbs 1500m: 108 ft-lbs. He wanted an even lighter-recoiling cartridge with the same performance, so the 6mm Creedmoor was born. From 600 to 1000 yards they use a 300 Winchester. Still, by using G1 across the board, we are on a level playing field. Unfortunately being such an older caliber, new-age tactical guys will not see this cartridge on many platforms. History: Winchester designed the .300 WSM in 2001 with the idea of a hybrid. What do I mean by that? Not many production rifles exist in a budget option. Flattest-Shooting Cartridges Ever Backfire 641K subscribers Subscribe 4.2K 173K views 1 year ago The flattest shooting rifle cartridges are listed in this video to help shooters determine. Was sad to not see the .300 H&H Magnum, though I doubt it would measure much different than the .300 Win Mag. I would think this data is slightly skewed unless the bullets are shot out of the same length of barrels and the same practices of reloading. But lets take a quick look at a historically popular flat-shooting cartridge, the .270 Winchester. The .260 isnt too informationally unavailable to offer a great learning caliber to the average new shooter. Using 1000 yards as a distance benchmark, the 6mm CM drops 8.1 mils, and the 6.5 CM with the Hornady 147 ELD-M drops 8.7 mils. For the average shooter looking to get into Long Range shooting, turn away and run to the smaller guys. 264 Winmag Drift: 56 inches. Im referring to cartridges that have been custom designed by people in the industry who squeeze every drop of performance out of a round. Recoil Condition: This round is special just like the other 6.5mm projectiles in its class. Both SOCOM (Special Operations Command) and the US Army have selected the .300 Norma Magnum as their hottest and newest sniper rifle cartridge. I argue that you will not find a more practical Long Range caliber in this list. With the projectile variability and network of knowledge on this cartridge, I think its a great option to build a classic hunting rifle. Just remember, when choosing your Long Range cartridge, every metric counts and affects overall performance. A standard projectile weight for optimum performance out of the 6CM would be a 105 grain Berger Target VLD @ 3,100fps. Initial Thoughts: Again, this round is such a classic. It shoots far and flat, it doesnt kick, and it doesnt break the bank. Ammo Availability: Shockingly, the average price per round is $4.75. With low case volume and slower MVs, the Grendel is an ideal cartridge for barrel life. Is your shooting hobby or mission dependent on a limited budget? Thanks Jim. Military sniper rifles are still utilizing this classic cartridge. The .277 bullet earns a lower B.C. And the more a scope magnifies, the narrower of an area . Its an excellent choice for shooting groundhogs out to 500 yards. The difference in the accuracy of store-bought ammo verse hand-loaded rounds is definitely noticeable. Now when it comes to ammo, I already mentioned. etc. And for all of you whove just learned your flat shooting champion really isnt, sorry. Right now, there is no loaded ammo and barely any brass available from Alpha and GAP. Is it possible to show those on your web site list? 1,000m: 786 ft-lbs. This cartridge has been around for a while. Especially in the bolt action realm. Your email address will not be published. The amount of drop is directly influenced by velocity, energy, rifle barrel, and bullet design. Please look into it. Thats what happened with Norma. 26 Nosler is considered by many to be the best cartridge for long-range hunting. . A big selling point to the Grendel is its ease on barrels. The 6mmCM excels amongst the PRS community and even long-range hunting. Because this cartridge is so new, ammo prices are going to be high. Again, being one of the forefathers of the Long Range shooting community, .308 is found everywhere. I've been toting a T3 Lite Stainless in .308 Winchester for many years. The round easily has enough energy to kill whitetail deer at 300 yards. What is your goal? I\m also a huge fan of Ron Spomer so well done for the recognition of his great work too. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Remaining Energy: Muzzle: 4,677 ft-lbs. History: The 6mm Creedmoor can obviously be related to its slightly bigger brother; the 6.5CM. However, with the 6CM being available in more modern builds, devices like muzzle brakes and suppressors (that are not found on most .243 rifles), will make for an even more pleasant recoil experience from the 6CM. While that incredibly fast 6.5-300 Wby. Todays magnum cartridges show us the performance that could only exist in science fiction, 20 years ago. A bullet traveling at supersonic speed pushes vapor in the air to create a cone around itself. 1,500m: 776 ft-lbs. The new case was developed for years based on the T65 developmental cartridge. The big advantage and why the .260 became so popular was that it could easily be necked up or down by using other standard rifle cartridges, making reloading a breeze. Somewhere in-between an AR-15 and AR-10. But this list is comprehensive enough to cover the most popular and best-performing rounds that are regularly used by shooters across most long-range disciplines. I like the 300 win mag for above reasons. 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